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i know this is a really odd thing to bring up. My aunt is bi-polar, she refuses to take her medicine, and she is crazed. Today i was talking on the phone with her, she was going on and on about being suicidal, how "i just want to kill myself" she says "she just wants to be with her b/f" who died in a car accident she was in when she was 2o years old. she moved on with her life like nothing happend, now she's diabled, fighting the state of ohio, to get her medical card back, and its just putting a ton of strees on her. which isn't good coz she has PTSD. and many other things..

I am the only one who can help her, i was wondering if someone could tell me if this is a real sign of suicidal tendency's, there are a few people in my family who have commited this sin.

any idea on what to say when someone says they want to kill themselves?

Please help

Allissa

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Permalink Reply by Allissa on April 2, 2009 at 6:19pm: easier said then done, I have tryed helping her change diets, i tryed to help her realize she needs vitamins, but she believes everything the doctors tell her, This is going to sound so selfish, but i'm tired of trying to help someone who isn't willing to help themselves first.

YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE UNWILLING.

your right maybe she don't wanna kill her self maybe she just wants more attention...i just can't deal with it anymore, my mom bi-polar skitzo, so is my aunt. its just too overwhelming...

i still dont know what to do should i just call the doctor and tell him she isn't taking her MED"s..maybe the hospital will help her..; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by bikram on April 2, 2009 at 6:37pm: alissa i am a doctor though not a psychiatrist.one of things that i was taught in med school in whatever little psychiatry we studied is that if someone threatens to commit suicide you should take that threat very seriously.especially if that person is suffering from clinical depression as your aunt is.depression has very definite familial clustering .so not unusual if your family has history of suicides.one of the common misconception that people have that if one claim to kill herself she is not going to do it.truth is exactly opposite.so take her threat very seriously or you will regret it rest of your life.if your aunt is really suffering from bipolar take her to a psychiatrist urgently.and dont you think you can talk her out of it..because you cant.bipolar is caused by neurotransmitter imbalances in brain which requires medication.unlike normal grief you cant treat her with words only.she may even require electroconvulsive therapy(legal in US).so dear take her urgently to a doctor or you will loose her...mind my words...and hope you wont be foolish enough to treat bipolar disorder, a grave psychosis (not a neurosis) with diet and vitamins...go save her alissa .....about your mom,is she suffering from bipolar or schizophrenia?these 2 are very diff diseases..; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by nalini on April 6, 2009 at 7:59am: Totally agree with Bikram! To a psychiatry unit, as soon as possible.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Ciaran Bracken on September 4, 2009 at 8:07pm: Dear Alissa

I would recommend a balancing of her emotions by excluding any outward wordly influence. There can be issues to be resolved but are exacerbated when there are issues which are not specific to that person for example watching negative programs and listening about world conflicts, programs which are about with obsessive charachteristics how thin am I? etc , programs which mostly make some one look inwardly on oneself. So try to avoid any communication that would make any negative impact.

Common sense would permit to restricting any substances which would inhibit her mood for instance alcahol, smoking which can both be a depressant and certain nutrition benefits which will bost her mood. Fruit which has a endomorphin effect boosting her mood.

To accomplish this I take it since she is very unwell she is not financially independant try to control all of these on her behalf as she may not be to my understanding be financially independant so buy the food and constrict any negative substances.

Get her to listen to relaxing music, positive programs, make the sorroundings uplifting by the colour in the room, give her plenty of relaxation by blocking out any of the noises from the outside envronment. As these issues she is having can be treated by medication its not going to solve the issue by medication alone which only psychiatric services provide so I would consider a holistic approach.

If you are financially equipped to offer a wide range of approaches one would be excercise to bring her to a water leisure/ Gym this would be important for relaxation. This is just one of the many options as exercise burns off excess energy and produces endomorphins which as I said boost your mood and aid sleeping due to relaxing of the muscles which can betense due to stress related illnesses.

If someone is considering taking their life a sign which would be further proof would be self harm. If she is not self harming that is a good sign as she has not implemented any serious consideration of suicide. Most of all take the best care of her physical, emotional and mental which would be too take medication. Psychiatric hospitals can be traumatic places and is not a centred loving environment so it can be traumatic. The side effects of tablets can be traumatic in themselves so it is important to notify her on the possible side effects which can cause emotional and physical symptoms. It would be wonderful to say that there are the Golden bullet for eradicating mental illness but there are not any.

There are cognitive therapy which help control your impulses and programmes for helping cope with metal illness called wrap consult with your doctor about theses and when she gets to a stable enough state of mind she should do a wrap plan which will help with controlling and the monitoring of her metal illness.

I would consider for her taking the medication but just as sharp I would take a holistic approach which is just as monumentally important. The most important thing is to enlighten her that she is capable of getting better by her own coping mechanisms not just the medication will improve her but she can improve herself. No medication is going to make your life a wonderful experience only you.; ▶ Reply to This